The complete and full definition of something is often much deeper than the words that attempt to articulate it. In other words, how we define something may only express a mere part of the reality of the object being defined. That may be because we simply don’t know much about it yet. Or it may be that we simply can’t articulate a particular reality to the fullest extent using only words.
For example, we know that marriage is “the union of a man and a woman.” That is true. But does that express the full reality of a marriage? Of course not. And there are thousands of more beautiful words we can use to define marriage to help us more deeply understand its reality, but they still end up falling short in one way or another. Ultimately, the fullness of the reality of marriage can only be expressed by the marriage itself – not words.
But of course when talking and writing about things, we have to use words. And some theological conversations fall prey to similar types of inadequacies causing needless division in the Body of Christ. The topic of Salvation is one such conversation.
Trying to use a simple definition of salvation and then applying it to multiple, complex theological situations can get confusing. Not to mention that, as often is the case when dealing with metaphysical topics, trying to describe things that transcend space and time with our spacial and temporal language and understanding is a challenging thing to do. But we do the best we can. However, in doing so we have to be careful not to put our own human limits on God or to give in to the great temptation to over-simplify something simply because we don’t fully understand it.
Regarding salvation, just from scripture we can reason that we have already been saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), we are being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and that we should also hope to be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). So which is it? We can’t give in to over-simplification here. We must dig deeper and figure out how all of these are true together.
Is it correct to say that salvation happens in a single moment in the past? Sure. But is it a complete definition? No. Our personal salvation is also ongoing and something we hope to continue happening until completed and final in the future (That is…if you believe in what scripture says).
So, for instance, asking somebody “Are you saved?” is a confusing question because it ignores the full meaning and reality of what salvation is. It would have also seemed like a very bizarre question to the early Christians by the way.
If I’ve been baptized, then yes, I’ve been saved. I can answer the question just fine. But the reason Catholics don’t phrase it that way is because it falls short of the full definition of what it means to be saved. It is inadequate and presumes (therefore deceiving people) that salvation happens solely at a single point in one’s life. It doesn’t.
It’s kind of like asking a 20 year old, “Have you been to college?” The 20 year old could say “Yes.” And the questioner is left without knowing what that entirely means. So they’ve been to college, but did they complete college? Are they still going to college? Etc.
Or the 20 year old could say, “Yes, I just had my first class today – so I’ve been to college. But I’m also still going to college. And one day I hope to graduate from college. Oh, and my Father paid in full already!” And that would be a more complete and meaningful answer.
Salvation is the same way. Asking someone “are you saved?” is an incomplete question. And we need to recognize that it often carries a different meaning depending on who is asking it!
That’s one of the things I love about the Catholic approach to theology in general. It recognizes that words are not reality (the Truth) in themselves. They merely attempt to describe the Truth. Consequently, words will always fall short because they are not the thing itself.
So attempting to use words to describe the very rich, deep, and mysterious truths of our Faith is often inadequate. And in doing so we recognize that the full meaning of a particular thing may not be comprehensively explained in one, neat sentence, but may only express one true part of its fuller meaning.
In Catholic apologetics you’ll hear things like “both/and” and “either/or.” Catholicism is a both/and kind of religion. It is comfortable embracing mystery.
Scripture and the Tradition of Christ’s Church are clear that salvation is both a moment and a process. It has both happened and is still happening. That may seem like the Church is accepting a contradiction. But that’s not true at all. Just because something is presently beyond our reason doesn’t mean it is unreasonable. What is unreasonable is to limit God and His work with false dichotomies of either/or. Again, we can’t fall to the temptation that just because we can’t presently understand something entirely that we must over-simplify it to the detriment of the fullness of Truth. If we broaden our minds we can easily see how these beliefs can hold true.
Ultimately, “being saved” is not ever entirely past tense for us here on Earth. It is not only something you said once or did once. Or only something you think or believe. It’s not a magic trick we let God do on us. It’s not passive.
Salvation is an active process. Not because God needs us to act – but because He desires us to act. Our action is not necessary because Christ’s sacrifice is lacking. It’s necessary because that is how God allows us to participate in His sacrifice. The currency is Grace, but the economy is faith, hope and love – in action. It’s a cross we wake up every day and embrace over and over again with each step we take through life. It’s a grace we must continually cooperate with and allow to sanctify us unto the very end.
Anything less than that just misses the real, good stuff.
Further reading:
Justification vs. Sanctification vs. Salvation
Clarifying Faith and Works
Mark Shea on Salvation
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This is a great post! I was looking for a way to explain it to a couple of protestant friends that think it is only a single event once. Of course I lack the gift of expressing my thoughts so this post comes in handy, thanks and keep up the posts coming.
Love this article! I don’t believe we are truly Saved until we are resting with the Lord. Everything else seems like a commercial for blemish creme! There is no quick-fix. You have to wake up everyday wanting to make it to heaven!!!
I agree with Tony. You have explained this in a great way. I’m going to share it with friends who will find it helpful.
A friend of mine recommends replying with, “Yes, I was saved on a Friday afternoon about two thousand years ago.” That takes the focus off us (ie, salvation by one time saying “Hey, Jesus, you rock!”) and onto Jesus’s salvific action in our lives.
I like that! I sometimes quote or paraphrase Fr. Corapi and answer, “yes! everday!” That might actually be a two dimensional answer to a much more dimensional question, though. But, like this article states, “Are you saved?” is an incomplete question. I like your response to such a question, Jane! I think I will borrow it!
I appreciate this blog because I can think things but have trouble putting them into words. I have been through the evangelical version of salvation (several times) but every time I would hear another “fire and brimstone” sermon I’d feel the need to go forward and “get saved” all over again. Now armed with the Catholic understanding that salvation focuses on Christ rather than on me makes more sense than anything I’ve ever experienced.
I enjoyed this post. Many years ago, when we first moved into our neighborhood, I was invited to a ladies, non-denominational Bible study. It was very enlightening for me, and probably for them also. There were only two Catholic women in the group of eight to ten. Being saved was a topic which often came up. Of course they never really understood how we thought we were saved, when we didn’t follow their method of being saved! I wish I had your post back then. When they could never be convinced, I used to tell them that we ‘renewed’ our baptism at confirmation and were therefore, saved, more in tune with their beliefs. That seemed to be acceptable! I especially like your statement, “…words are not reality (the Truth) in themselves. They merely attempt to describe the Truth.”
Thanks, this makes a lot more sense to me than the all-at-once salvation idea.
While specific moments in our life (e.g., Baptism, or even “being saved” by responding to an altar call in a non-Catholic church) are very important, faith and salvation are a life-long journey, and include times when one strays away from it all, and/or feels like God has left one alone.
Thank you, what a great and clear article! I especially like the College student analogy. This will be very helpful to me in explaining Catholic teaching on salvation. Thanks again, so much! :)
Jane, I also like your response to the question, “Are you saved?”. I think I’ll be borrowing that in the future, if that’s ok with you! :)
Fascinating discussion, everyone! I’m curious where in the Bible it talks about baptism securing salvation? How does that fit into Jesus’ command, “You must be born again” ? Yes, Jane, everyone’s salvation was secured on that cross, and He does wish all men to “come to the knowledge of the truth.” However, not everyone will choose to accept it.
RE: Baptism and Salvation
Mk 16:15–16
“Go into the whole world and proclaim the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
Jn 3:5
Jesus answered (Nicodemus), “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit.”
Titus 3:5
… not because of any righteous deeds we had done but because of his mercy, he saved us through the bath of rebirth (baptism) and renewal by the holy Spirit.
1 Pet 3:20–21
God patiently waited in the days of Noah during the building of the ark, in which a few persons, eight in all, were saved through water. This prefigured baptism, which saves you now.
Rom 6:3–4
Or are you unaware that we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were indeed buried with him through baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might live in newness of life.
Acts 2:38–39
Peter (said) to them, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit. For the promise is made to you and to your children and to all those far off, whomever the Lord our God will call.”
Thank you, Ann! Both Acts 2 and Mark 16 state repenting or believing first before being baptised. John 3:5 refers to being born again, as does Titus 3:5. In 2 Timothy 3:15 Paul explains to Timothy how to be saved; it’s not thru baptism, it’s through faith in Jesus Christ: “and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.” Scripture needs to be interpreted by scripture. The thief on the cross had no time to be baptised! :) It’s a matter of the heart.
I think we all have are own interpretations of the scripture. Which would be why there are so many Christian denominations. The question is who is right? That is where my faith in the Church I believe Christ founded comes into play. I don’t know about you – but I don’t want to be the thief on the cross! I want to be part of the body of Christ, and be an active participant in my Salvation (from birth to death)! God’s grace can not be measured nor limited – but it also shouldn’t be tested. I don’t believe every person who isn’t baptized goes to hell, but I know baptism is a step in the right direction! I know that the sacraments help me get to heaven, and with God’s grace I might get there some day.
Oh, Ann, don’t put your faith in a church, put your faith in Jesus Christ, as Peter tells the rulers and elders: “There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Baptism is an outward sign of an inward faith or belief, it has no power in and of itself. The sacraments won’t help you get to heaven. Belief in His name, inviting Him into your heart to rule and reign as revealed in Romans 10:10 – “For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.” You will no longer have to say “I might get there some day” – You will know that you know that you know!
D Roper – Where in the bible does it say that “Baptism is an outward sign of an inward faith or belief, it has no power in and of itself.”? It says no such thing. That belief is a “tradition of men” not found in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
As a Catholic I believe in 100% of what the scriptures tell us. And as scripture (many times) tells us (as Ann so clearly shows in her comment above), there is a direct link between baptism and salvation.
Yes, there are baptisms of desire (the criminal on the cross) and of blood (martyrs), but the way that Jesus’ Church and the obvious intention that Jesus and the Holy Spirit through scripture intends us to receive the graces of baptism is through a real, sacramental baptism by water…as the Catholic Church also teaches.
Believing in Jesus’ Church (his bride) is in no way believing LESS in Jesus or depending LESS on Jesus. It is quite the opposite. It is through His Church (which HE founded and gave us) that we experience Jesus Christ that much more intimately. It’s pretty awesome!
Thank you for your concern, D Roper. I’ll have to agree to disagree. I have complete faith in Jesus Christ and surrender to God every day. It is that faith that brings me to the Catholic Church. His Church. He speaks to me there. I wish you well, God bless!
If you have complete faith in Jesus Christ and surrender to God every day, you are assured eternal life. I will reserve a big hug for you in Heaven! :)
Matthew, there’s a great exposition on baptism here: http://www.revearljackson.com/uploads/3/2/2/5/322557/baptism_ryan_bradley.pdf. If you type in “Baptism required for salvation” into Google, you’ll find many reasons why it isn’t. The thief was promised salvation; different distinctions of baptisms aren’t anywhere in scripture. God has one body of believers, the church, and one of these days He’s coming back to take us all home :) I Cor. 12:13 “For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.” Salvation comes from believing alone: Acts 2:21, “….whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Let’s keep it simple!
D Roper – you’re making my point with this post. You are over-simplifying it to the point of neglecting so much good stuff Christ gives us!
Do you not believe scripture in 1 Peter (and the many other verses) when it says “This prefigured baptism, which saves you now.”?? Peter literally says baptism saves you now. And you say to Peter…”no no, let’s keep it simple. Pete!”
I’ve no doubt there are many flawed interpretations of scripture that can pick and choose which parts you want to believe (such as the link you provided above) and then concoct your own belief system that is as simple as you’d like. But if we want to respect (and believe) in all of scripture and Jesus’ teachings, then we must recognize it may not be as simple as you’d like. However, it’s still not very complicated…i mean, what the Church teaches on baptism is very simple. AND the best part is that it is consistent with ALL of scripture and apostolic teaching.
Here is also a good link with a number of references to Christian teaching on baptism and other sacraments as well that may give more perspective on it.
There can’t be any more good stuff than the free gift of salvation, eternal life with him expressed in two words: Jesus saves! I can’t imagine when Jesus comes back to take His churchas one body, he’s going to leave those behind who haven’t been baptised. The Catholic Church adds so much more that Jesus never said or implied. Mary sinless? I don’t think so, contradicts New and Old Testament, Romans 3:23, “All have sinned and falled short of the glory of God” and Isaiah 64:6, “All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags.” Let’s stick to scripture, and have scripture interpret scripture. We’ll have to agree to disagree, as Ann said. I see no benefit, example or precedent in the Word for praying to anyone but my Lord. I’m gonna stick to what works! :)
D Roper – It’s not our job to judge who will go to heaven. But to humble ourselves to what Jesus has asked of us.
You’ve expressed yet again a number of views that are not at all found in scripture, but instead are relatively new “traditions of men” within Christian denominationalism. The first Christians (including those in the new testament and thereafter) neither spoke, nor believed as you do.
You keep insisting that we let scripture interpret scripture, yet when faced with scripture that contradicts your beliefs, you simply ignore it and take only the bits of other scripture that can be twisted to support your view.
And I can assure you there are full and scriptural explanations for all of your misunderstandings of the Catholic teachings you reference here. And if you want to “stick with what works” i would suggest, again, the Catholic faith…as it has worked well enough for about 2000 years that it has survived all matter of scandal while also preserving authentic Christian teaching. No other denomination or belief system has done any such thing. And protestantism continues to devolve and divide more and more every year…both doctrinally and organizationally. I’m not sure what “works” about that.
Peace!
Oh, Matthew He DOES give us assurance of salvation and eternal life! I ache for Anne (above) who “hopes to get to heaven some day.” That is not His desire that His people be in confusion or doubt. There is just so much in the Catholic faith that does not reside in God’s Word: Purgatory, Mary being conceived without sin, the rosary, praying to those who have died. Since I’m not Catholic, am I not a believer assured of salvation? Why am I denied sharing the Lord’s supper with you? That seems divisive to me. Only one “true” church? Seems divisive as well. I think when we get to heaven, Mary will shake her head sadly and say, Why were you exalting me? It’s Jesus who deserves Your worship! Peace to you, Matthew.
D Roper
This conversation started as – “I’m curious”. Clearly it is not curiosity that sparked your questions. I am not confused nor doubtful. I know it is my responsibility to renew my faith daily. Never say never – we all have the nature to fall into sin and through sin we turn away from God. This conversation has turned from curiosity to judgement. I believe there are many places in the Bible where it says not to judge your fellow brothers and sisters. So perhaps if you can’t keep the judgement from entering your comments you should find a blog more suited to your school of thought. I take my faith very seriously, it is what I practice daily. I teach it to my kids. I have a strong devotion to Mary, she is not a distraction she is a path. She brings me closer to Jesus every day . I respect your opinions, but at this point I think we are just talking in circles. Please respect my beliefs and do not ache for me. I will be just fine. Save your worries for those who have not found Christ, for the poor, the sick, and the suffering. May God bless us all!
I meant no judgment of anyone; it just saddens me that the assurance of salvation is not taught, as there is such freedom and peace found there! I know it will all be moot point when we get on the other side. Blessings to all.
In all kindness, the kind of assurance you are talking about is not taught by Catholics because it was not taught by Jesus and the apostles – and particularly not in scripture. The Apostle Paul himself says “See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off” (Rom. 11:22). He is speaking to Christians here, warning that they too will be “cut off” if they do not “continue in his kindness.” It’s overwhelmingly clear. Paul also says (among many, many other things) that he is “working out his salvation in fear and trembling.” Yet, here again, you choose to ignore some scripture in favor of other scripture that you can twist to support your own relatively new tradition of men (the idea of this “assured salvation” that you talk about has only been around a relatively short time in Christian history and you certainly won’t find any evidence of it being believed by the first/early Christians at all).
Here is a great article with a much deeper explanation of this issue, along with a lot of other scripture to support it: Assurance of Salvation
Also, please check out this link if you’d like some scripture references to all of the Catholic teachings you mention above in your other comment.
And I think you might find this post helpful as well: Why Do Catholics Believe in Things Not in the Bible?
And since you asked, one reason the Catholic Church asks non-Catholics to abstain from receiving the Eucharist is that, first, you do not believe it to be what we believe it to be (Jesus Body and Blood, as He claims it is). And second, it’s because you are not actually in “communion” with the Catholic Church. Receiving communion in the Catholic Church is also a way of saying, “Amen, I believe this is the body and blood of Jesus Christ and I believe in the teachings of the Church – which He gave authority to.” If you are not in communion with those beliefs, then I’m not sure why you would want to participate in that communion?
Either way, it is not our “communion” that is divisive. That’s entirely backwards. What is divisive is splitting off from Christ’s Church and dividing it and abandoning many of its teachings (as happened in the “reformation” and continues to happen within protestantism continually to this day). Not sharing the communion table together is simply a consequence of that – not the other way around.
Peace be with you!
We will agree to disagree; thank you for taking the time to share the links, Matt! Blessings!
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