Featured Catholic Website: Phatmass

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Preaching Holy Apostolic Truth:  That’s what the “PHAT” in phatmass stands for.  And if you’ve never checked out phatmass.com, you should head on over there for a visit.  They currently even have Fallible Blogma as their “Pheatured Pheed” – which is pretty sweet and an honor.

Among countless other faithfully Catholic things, on phatmass.com you’ll find an outstanding discussion forum, a directory of great Catholic resources, cool Catholic wallpapers for your computer, one-of-a-kind statement making t-shirts, and neat things like this 2000 Year Christian Timeline.  And, of course, all of this not to mention their pro, creative brand of Catholic hip-hop.

Phatmass is a perfect example of how to creatively engage our culture without compromising orthodoxy.  Here is a little more info from their website:

The Phatmass Mission Statement

With orthodoxy, charity and humility, phatmass will infiltrate the entire
planet earth with Catholic propaganda via innovative multimedia.

Our list of action items

  • Infiltrate the entire planet earth with Catholic propaganda
  • Produce Catholic hip-hop music as a creative method of communication to the youth and urban culture. *Phatmass is strongly opposed to advocating the use of hip-hop in the liturgy, as we do not feel it properly creates an atmosphere of reverence conducive to prayer
  • Perform at live shows and events across the country with the cooperation of a network of different artists
  • Advocate praying the rosary and provides a meditative prayer aide over the internet with our sister web site, 59Beads.com
  • Design, manufacture and sell clothing and merchandise with strong Catholic messages, promoting a “culture” of orthodoxy
  • Support persecuted Catholics in Pakistan by selling their saint bracelets, with 100% of proceeds going directly to them.

I love one of their old website taglines that was “Converting Catholics to Catholicism.” What a great line and what a great need. If only the 1 billion Catholics in the world knew what they had in their Church and lived it. The world would be an entirely different (and better) place. With more sites like phatmass.com, hopefully one day we’ll get there!

Here’s a little video from a couple artists from phatmass:

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Catherine August 19, 2009 at 12:30 pm

A great place for Catholics who prefer fine dining over cafeterias.

Albert the Great October 10, 2010 at 4:20 pm

I would be very careful of the Phatmass website – it often presents an ultra-right wing version of Catholicism which is frequently more to do with the political extremism of the contributors rather than the faith of the Church.
There is a self-selecting clique who organize the Phorum most of whom have a similar political viewpoint which they dress up as the teaching of the church. The clique certainly shows little charity to anyone who dares disagree with them – I would heartily endorse the comments of Veritas (below) about the site.

reinnier October 11, 2010 at 1:08 am

really? still hating a year later? WOW!

LilRed August 19, 2009 at 12:37 pm

it’s phorum, not forum :D Thanks for pheaturing phatmass!

eagle August 19, 2009 at 2:55 pm

Phatmass is an awesome place to ask questions about the faith whether you are a theologian or just starting to learn more.

Joshua of Catholic Tech Tips August 20, 2009 at 9:03 am

I’ve been a fan of PhatMass for a very long time! I’ve purchased a couple shirts (wish they’d bring back the black shirt with the old logo in white — I think it had their mission statement on the back). I’ve supported their hip-hop artists too. Good stuff!

Dean Soto August 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm

PhatMass is fantastic. Definitely one of the best places for solid Catholic youth entertainment and formation. I wish more parishes would promote them to their youth organizations.

They are no-fear Catholics with an explicit mission. Great stuff!

pat22 August 20, 2009 at 10:06 pm

phatmass rox!
i didnt know it was considered so music oriented though

Veritas August 23, 2009 at 1:55 pm

Phatmass is not to be praised as much. I know several who have left that website, because of all the uncharitable posts. I know of a Catholic Dominican Nun who was chased of by members in “Vocation Station” and a priest who left because of very disrespectful comments directed at him on some of his posts. Just today I was perusing the site, and there seems to be a fight going on between members on the Open Mic phorum. Catholics vs. Catholics isn’t my sense of Charity. You can bellow out loud and praise y’all selves, but I happen to know that most of the moderators and several longtime members can be very callous in their dealings with other members of the phorum. MadameV was one such member who got her character smashed into bits and pieces in a thread by several “Church Militants” (these flag-wavers don’t stand for our Faith very well.) Even some moderators joined in on the all-out bash fest of MadameV. Also, I witnessed a friend taking on a moderator for championing gay marriage! Because of my friend’s brave stand against a popular moderator, she was treated to a rash of threads meant to mock her. Phatmass is not orthodox Catholicism, instead, it’s more like a bunch of people searching through their own darkness with just a few bright lights amongst them. There are a scattering of devout Catholic members on that board, and because of these few members, I really can’t condemn the whole of phatmass. Sorry, but you need to watch out what you praise before you set it up to be “Hardcore Catholicism” or even a website to “Convert Catholics to Catholicism.” From what I’ve heard, a few of the best have left because phatmass is filled with haters.

kk August 26, 2009 at 2:23 pm

I have to agree w/ Veritas, who used to be a regular on Phat.

Increasingly a shrill, self-styled “orthodox” rad trad element has taken over. Not a little anti-Semitism also.

Lil Red August 26, 2009 at 6:09 pm

where has there been anti-Semitism?

kk August 27, 2009 at 10:12 am

The discussions on Bishop Williamson’s(Wimmiams?–not sure) he of SSPX– statements re his denial or diminution or trivialization of the Holocaust, strongly condemned by Benedict. Various posters got into tangles with a certain poster of eastern rite who tried to wiggle out of hisobpedience to the pope, who emphatically stated that the Holocaust was a fact to be believed by Catholics and those in communion with them. The poster’s comments were clearly anti-Semitic in their denial and trivialization of the Holocaust, a hallmark of anti-Semitic beliefs. I tried to call this to the attention of the mods, to no effect. The entire episode was a low point for phat.

reinnier August 24, 2009 at 9:19 am

Thanks for pheturing phatmass. Thanks for the love. And for all the haters out there we love you too!!!!

Cade_One August 24, 2009 at 10:03 am

Veritas, PhatMass isn’t for everyone. It is geared more towards the hip-hop culture. I’m sorry to hear that some members of the religious vocation were treated poorly. My suggestion would be for your religious friends to got to RosaryArmy forums which would probably be more to their liking. For me, I tend to like forums that do not moderate so tightly that people are afraid to post how they really feel. I’ve been on forums where the moderating is so strict that I just got discouraged (and I’m not vulgar or disrespectful). I admit that I do not hang out too often on the PhatMass Phorums, but I have posted a couple times.

The thing about forums is that you have a bunch of people, all with different viewpoints, usually talking about two of the things that they say we shouldn’t talk about —Religion & Politics! So can you expect heated debates, uncharitable dialogue, and mean-spirited members? Sadly, yes. I am a person who does not like things watered down —I like things real. Forums that are heavily moderated tend to be fluffy. On the other hand, forums that are hardly moderated at all can be just plain vulgar or juvenile. A good forum blocks those who are blatantly instigating other members for merely entertainment purposes, but is not too quick to block every post that rubs them the wrong way. If you like the fluff, then there are Catholic forums for you. If you like things unwatered down, then there are Catholic forums for you. But I think that Veritas brings up a good point, Catholic Christians need to be charitable in these forums and treat people with respect, while at the same time standing for Truth. The problem that I find is that if I disagree with someone on a personal topic, they take it personal (and visa-versa). I think the key is to understand where the person is coming from and to not get upset by their reasonings. Say “this is why I believe what I believe” or “this is why I do not believe as you believe,” rather than attacking the person directly. Often times it still doesn’t matter, people will take things personal anyway.

I think PhatMass is doing a great job of reaching out to the hip-hop culture. You should not base your critique of a website just on a forum (unless, of course, that’s all the site is, but PhatMass is so much more than just the forums, as Matthew mention in the blogpost).

SMM August 25, 2009 at 10:42 am

Hmm… I wonder who Veritas is :mellow:

PM is great. There are some people who like to egg others on, but I’ve never found the whole place overly callous. The dynamics change as the members come and go, just like any place. I don’t know what “moderator” was not upholding Church teachings on SS “marriage” but I haven’t seen unorthodoxy amongst those who serve the moderation team. To those who may be turned off by one or two posts, I challenge you to try the phorum. You can always just leave if you don’t like the attitudes or you think it’s too oppressive! I’ve been to some “Christian” forums that have been under heavy guard for whatever reason and I’ve ended up leaving cause I didn’t like it. That simple. But I gave them a chance. And that makes all the difference!

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Veritas August 30, 2009 at 8:03 am

You wouldn’t know me SMM, ‘cos I’ve never posted on phatmass, I’ve only visited and witnessed the things I’ve pointed out. I am close friends to a circle of friends who were once on there, and they weren’t blind to the incredible acts of uncharity that go on between members of that board. As much as you want to dismiss it, it does exist. I laughed, because one of them told me that if I even bothered to comment about this, I would for sure get “:mellow:” and “:rollyeyes:” comments! Some even told me that Phatmass would start a thread about it. Not sure if you guys did that, but I’m sure my comment was mentioned somewhere on the phorum. Again, I’m not speaking about the majority, but I find it sad when members’ characters are maligned, and no one speaks out against it, instead, because it’s more of a popularity clique, everyone sides even with those doing the bashing. But you are not one of those, I know that you usually stay out of the drama, and you are pretty cool…

reinnier August 25, 2009 at 11:24 am

Hip Hop is a part of phatmass, but it’s a small percentage of phatmass. I don’t post on phatmass because i’t a hip hop site. I post on phatmass because it’s a catholic site. phatmass is were i found true Catholicism. Phatmass does convert Catholics to Catholicism. Check out our defense directory. We don’t conform to what’s hip and what’s hopping. We follow the Magisterium. That’s what being Catholic means. Being Catholic means being counter-cultural. we will stay true the church that was founded by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago. If it means that we will be hated on so be it.

Archaeology cat August 26, 2009 at 8:33 am

Thanks for featuring the phorum. :-)

Well said, SMM & ReinnieR. While PM may not be for everyone, I’ve learnt a lot on there. And if you don’t want serious posts, there’s always the LB. ;-)

Darkwing Duck August 26, 2009 at 11:54 am

phatmass is far out. the impact that PM has had on my life is… interesting. definitely my fave catholic site for message boards.

kk August 26, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Also a lot of ultra right wing elements on phat, spreading a lot of lies. Fortunately, the mods got rid on the politics section, putting them below the Lame Board and then getting rid of it. Long, long threads about Obama being born in Kenya and THEN not being an US citizen bec his FATHER was born in Kenya—etc. etc. Slur, innuendo, downright lies. If you want this, just follow FOX news. Really.

Every time we fly, every mile of the sky, everything we do... August 26, 2009 at 9:09 pm

Those in charge got rid of Politicos because the election ended, and there were not the volume of posts necessary to keep a whole section devoted to only political discussion.
Opposing viewpoints are always welcome – I can’t remember a time someone was censored because they had/have a dissenting opinion.
While it also may be true that many on phatmass are aligned with the “right wing” as you put it, this is in large part due to the embracing of the culture of death of the so-called “left wing”. If you’ll stop by the forums sometime, I think you’ll see that many also subscribe to ideas that may be considered more democratic in some circles, such as providing health care for those who cannot otherwise obtain it.

zunshynn August 26, 2009 at 2:29 pm

I love PM… I know for myself, not having a lot of Catholic friends in my area, the community at PM has been a godsend, to have a place to share and be encouraged in my faith, my love for Jesus. It’s a closeknit group, but very welcoming to others, even to those that don’t agree or are not Catholic, by genuinely treating people with the respect that they deserve, not by condoning error.

When I first came to PM, I was discerning a vocation to religious life, and found the Vocation Station to be an incredible place to learn about different orders, discuss aspects of discernment, and just have a sense of community going through the same thing. I did join a contemplative monastery for 2.5 years, and although didn’t have any contact with anyone from Phatmass while I was there, I still felt a very deep connection to the people there. I truly still considered them to be like family… And after I came home, checking back in there was one of the first things I did… I found the members there, new and old, to be very welcoming, encouraging, generous with their prayers, and sincerely willing to be supportive however they could.

Are there heated disagreements sometimes? Sure… but I think friends should be able to argue and still be friends, and charitable, which I have always found to be the case. I cannot think of a single moderator or longstanding member that routinely treats people callously. Does everyone have bad days? Yeah… I think that’s something we all work on. Madame Vengier really seemed to take offense at everything, and blow things out of proportion, but it really seemed that overall, most members really made an effort to still treat her kindly, as I think they do for all people, even when they generally rude. There have been situations where religious on Vocation Station were treated less respectfully than they should have been, by a small handful of members, but definitely not the majority. But overall, I think everyone tries to be kind to each other, and they’re pretty good about apologizing when need be.

We aren’t perfect people… but I think the vast majority are really striving for sanctity, have a zeal for the truth, and a deep love of Jesus and His Church, and encourage that in each other. I would definitely encourage anyone to give it a chance… we would all love to have you join us!

Steven Todd Kaster August 26, 2009 at 5:46 pm

I have posted at Phatmass for many years (using the screen name – Apotheoun), and I remember the thread on “same-sex marriage” referenced by Veritas, and – although it was a rather contentious discussion – the majority of posters remained civil.

Anyone interested in reading the thread in question can do a google search using the phrase “obama champions gay rights phatmass” and that should allow them to find a link.

Marie-Therese August 26, 2009 at 5:53 pm

Well, to me, Phatmass is a Godsend. It is a touchstone to the larger Catholic world that I simply do not get to experience, being in a particularly non-Catholic part of the US. While PM has roots in pop culture and hip-hop, that is not what the board IS. The diversity of posters and opinions is broad.

As to these repeated assertions of some radical trad right-wing army spreading anti-semitism, that is simply not true. Are there “rad trad” members? Yes, as there are in the Church at large. Do some people hold views that are not within the mainstream? I’m sure there are. That is the way society at large functions. However, to make an insinuation that there is somehow a faction of anti-semites running the PM board is an insinuation that is devoid of charity and, frankly, not true. When blatantly offensive posts occur, there are a multitude of members who step in to make corrections and to encourage orthodox investigation which is in concert with the Magisterium of the Church.

There are frequent heated debates on issues. Are there occasions where people forget their Christian charity? Yep. That’s life. However, I feel quite comfortable stating that the overwhelming majority of members take their orthodoxy and their role as Christian brethren very seriously.

I would welcome anyone to evaluate Phatmass themselves, for its own merits. I find it to be a warm community and an invaluable resource. Thanks to Fallible Blogma for the wonderful mention. :)

VeniteAdoremus August 26, 2009 at 6:26 pm

I completely second most posters here :) Actually, this comment thread is becoming not at all unlike a PM discussion in itself!

SMM August 26, 2009 at 8:09 pm

Yeah… it has. Lawl. PM is invading the Blogosphere! :P

Max August 26, 2009 at 6:46 pm

phatmass smells of elderberries. They are obsessed with pie and tacos, so very tasty and good for you and then there this croutons about not being able to type coagulated milk.

…there are always going to be malcontents on places where more than one person voices their thoughts and opinions. Phatmass has accrued it’s detractors but there are far more people who find phatmass a great place to enrich their faith.

Veritas September 3, 2009 at 12:28 pm

LOL! There’s a new rating system on phatmass? This is exactly what I’m talking about. Let other members rate other members? Wow. That’s REALLY charitable! LOL!

So, you guys can gang up on the members who aren’t in the popularity clique and give them like -1,000?

“The Phatmass Mission Statement
With orthodoxy, charity and humility, phatmass will infiltrate the entire
planet earth with Catholic propaganda via innovative multimedia.”

FAIL!

reinnier September 3, 2009 at 3:29 pm

that’s not a phatmass feature. our board is powered by invision powerboard and that’s an invision powerboard feature. that’s not phatmass native. do your homework before you start posting online and making a fool of yourself.

Veritas September 3, 2009 at 6:34 pm

Regardless if it isn’t “phatmass native” or whatever, that sure isn’t preventing you guys from taking advantage of it. I already have noticed some members are offended at their “negative ratings.” You guys don’t waste any time tearing down those who don’t belong to your little popularity clique.

“The Phatmass Mission Statement
With orthodoxy, charity and humility, phatmass will infiltrate the entire
planet earth with Catholic propaganda via innovative multimedia.”

FAIL!

Archaeology cat September 4, 2009 at 3:23 am

Each person has a very limited number of ratings he can give per day, and can only rate a particular post once, both of which should help to deter people from abusing it. If someone is offended by it or notices that it is being abused, he should inform dUSt so it can be remedied.

A member October 18, 2010 at 12:25 am

Phatmass helped in my conversion to the Catholic Church. Sadly I can no longer call the place my online home, given that the once welcoming place saw the webmaster go on a banning and privilege ripping spree for those who disagreed with him, or those who stayed silent and he still felt he could not trust because they were friends with the banned. Nothing like logging on one day to find you can no longer use the messenger, no longer post in the Back Alley for Catholics only, nor post in the Vocations Station. If Phatmass feels the need to obstruct potential vocations instead of pray for them, then Phatmass does no deserve to be called Catholic anymore.

Archaeology cat October 18, 2010 at 9:58 am

I think the Back Alley is just down, not that dUSt is targeting people – I can’t get into the threads there, but can use the messenger. There haven’t been any new posts in the Back Alley since mid-September, though. dUSt apologised for going too far with the new rule, and changed it back, so that shouldn’t be an issue any more, IMO. I’m unaware of anything else going on, so can’t comment.

A member October 20, 2010 at 7:10 am

I believe you that Dust apologized. That said, I did not see it in his posts on Phatmass going back to October 2nd upon reading them in hopes of being pleasantly surprised. The Back Alley was taken down after my post to this thread (no correlation) because no one had posted there since Andrew did on September 17th, although given some Church Militants are now “Phishied” in all but tag, this is unsurprising with at least two of them unable to read their love letters from courtships of people they met on Phatmass, one of whom married the woman he courted.

Archaeology cat October 20, 2010 at 12:44 pm

IIRC, the apology was on a thread in the Back Alley. I could be wrong. I obviously can’t comment on the other things. God bless.

reXteryalizer February 20, 2011 at 5:54 pm

Christ established a bible receiving church.

12 times in the book of rev…JESUS HIMSELF COMANDS JOHN Saying,

, “What thou seest, write in a book, & send it unto the churches.

JESUS NAMED ( by locaTion _) THESE ( HIS)… 7 MAIN bible receiving CHURCHES..

Your chursh was not on the list.

Jesus did not think it very IMPORTANT or wIZE to send someone in Rome a copy of THE BIBLE…..(

why would HE)

There was no church in ROME to accept, receive THE BIBLE.

There was No church in ROME interested in Jesus, The gospel or the bible.

Thats Y there are no catholic traditions

( BUT THE BIBLE is aginst many, many catholic man made fabrications / doctrines. (Junk Theology )INVENTION/

Joh 10:35 JESUS CLEARLY STATED the word of God came TO THE JUDGES & the Scripture cannot be broken;

JESUS CLEARLY SAID TRADITIONS OUT OF GODS WORD. SCRIPTURES..ARE void , vain. non effect. & man made

THE N.T- BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY ALL JEWS..& 1 GENTILE MAN..THE EARLIEST BIBLE OUT OF AFRICA IS THE VETUS ..BIBLE OF 200 AD

Vetus Itala BIBLE

http://www.realdouayrheims.com/vetusitala.html http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15367a.htm

& http://www.marianmessenger.ph/index.php/browse-by-topic/marian-prayers

& http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts

& http://www.biblebelievers.net/BibleVersions/kjcforv2.htm

& http://textus-receptus.com/w/mediawiki-1.13.2/index.php/List_of_New_Testament_Latin_manuscripts

& http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=1412876

& http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_0_02930.html

& http://www.answers.com/topic/vetus-latina

& http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/encyc02.html?term=Bible%20Versions
………………………………..

The whole /complete Bible, based on Greek manuscripts of N.T. was the Vetus Itala OF 200 AD out of N. Africa

Vetus Itala OF 200 AD WAS the WHOLE New Testament Bible…complete in thirty-eight manuscripts, its Old-Testament text survived only in parts.

Catholic Enc Vol. XV, © 2007 http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15367a.htm

Thats why Jesus clarified the oral traditions,,were corrected..by the written tradition ….outside of Gods word,,

Jesus clearly said is all. void , vain. non effect. & man made.

paul- Main elder & MASTER BUILDER OF THE CHURCH/ BY THE Holy Spirit.

PAUL..wrote 14 BOOKS/ Clearly said ,,all written scriptures for correction, doctrine, reproofing and perfecting..

PAUL COMANDED HIS WRITINGS,/ bible, books, BIBLIOS…..be SENT TO ALL BROTHERS,ALL CHURCHES

THE HOLY SPIRIT,…COMANDS /// WRITINGS,/ bible, books, be SENT TO ALL BROTHERS,ALL CHURCHEs and obeyed as the correction, doctrine, reproofing and perfecting.

Rome or CATHOLICS did not WRITE any of the bible..

Rome or CATHOLICS did not decide the 1 ST. list of books CALLED inspired by the holy spirit..

Rome or CATHOLICS do not follow the bible ot even like the bible….

The mere facT …that the earliest COMPLETE N.T bible was complete

BY the year 150 – 200 AD..

Catholics dont really like this FACT..

They still ride on the claim they PUT the bible together in 300 0r 400 AD

When the fact is the bible was already put together & in a b00K By 150 – 200 AD..

They ignore this eXisting COmplete bible….Deleting the date it was completed in & who made it..

Or the fact that it was not made in ROME….Decided in Rome

Was not Catholics who made this VETUS bible out of North Africa….from JEWS / & christians In Africa…who had fled from ROMAN & pagan murdering power hungry madmen … ( whom the likes invented

& MADE into LAW ( UNDER punishment of DEATH )

The ROMAN~ TIC Catholic RELIGION

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