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		<title>By: anyonomassssssfheoih</title>
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		<dc:creator>anyonomassssssfheoih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOOD, if eaten to survive, it can be very beneficial duh, if eaten to much can turn a healthy person to a diseased over eating monster. Same with alcohol, a little goes along way, however if drunk too much, you know.......... Same thing. Everything is good and bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOOD, if eaten to survive, it can be very beneficial duh, if eaten to much can turn a healthy person to a diseased over eating monster. Same with alcohol, a little goes along way, however if drunk too much, you know&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Same thing. Everything is good and bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evil is not something unto itself, but good corrupted.  For example, making love to your wife is good, but sex with a whore is evil.  Eating a reasonable dinner is good, but stuffing yourself to the max is gluttony.  In the same way, wine in moderation is good, but drunkenness is evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evil is not something unto itself, but good corrupted.  For example, making love to your wife is good, but sex with a whore is evil.  Eating a reasonable dinner is good, but stuffing yourself to the max is gluttony.  In the same way, wine in moderation is good, but drunkenness is evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Solomon I.E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solomon I.E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drinking wine is good but getting drunk is evil.then why can&#039;t we abstaine ourself from all apearance of evil? As the bible comanded</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drinking wine is good but getting drunk is evil.then why can&#8217;t we abstaine ourself from all apearance of evil? As the bible comanded</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Jesus drink wine? He supposedly turned water into wine I guess to one up Dionysus who performed the same trick at a party centuries earlier. I wonder what the ancients would think if some of them could come back to life today and see that we&#039;ve made religions out of their Harry Potter stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Jesus drink wine? He supposedly turned water into wine I guess to one up Dionysus who performed the same trick at a party centuries earlier. I wonder what the ancients would think if some of them could come back to life today and see that we&#8217;ve made religions out of their Harry Potter stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Regular Wino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regular Wino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there definitely was wine getting made at the time, although it was a slightly different process to what we&#039;re used to these days. 

I would imagine with all the references to wine - as opposed to grape juice - that Jesus did drink wine. 

Here&#039;s a piece I wrote about the wine that was drunk back in those days

http://www.regularwino.com/history/what-wine-did-jesus-drink/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there definitely was wine getting made at the time, although it was a slightly different process to what we&#8217;re used to these days. </p>
<p>I would imagine with all the references to wine &#8211; as opposed to grape juice &#8211; that Jesus did drink wine. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a piece I wrote about the wine that was drunk back in those days</p>
<p><a href="http://www.regularwino.com/history/what-wine-did-jesus-drink/" rel="nofollow">http://www.regularwino.com/history/what-wine-did-jesus-drink/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 04:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie - wild yeast is present in the air and on the grapes used. So, as stated in the post, any grape juice stored for any length of time (such as until passover) from the grape harvest, would have been fermented - i.e. alcoholic - because there was no practical way to normally &quot;preserve&quot; grape juice and store it back then without having natural (wild) yeast present in it.

The rest of your argument makes no sense. Having wine does not dishonor your mind and body necessarily. We see both uses in scripture...to get drunk (which is sinful) or to celebrate and make hearts glad (wedding feast at Cana, Old Testament, etc.). Wine itself is not the evil. It&#039;s how it is used or abused. Everything you do &quot;alters your mind&quot;. Exercise affects the chemicals in your brain. Coffee (and pretty much every food and drink) alters how your body feels and the chemicals in your brain. So you can&#039;t use the fact that something &quot;alters your mind&quot; as an argument for it being sinful.

Personally, I enjoy reading scripture with a good glass of wine. Of course I use a more complete version than the KJV.  Peace and love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie &#8211; wild yeast is present in the air and on the grapes used. So, as stated in the post, any grape juice stored for any length of time (such as until passover) from the grape harvest, would have been fermented &#8211; i.e. alcoholic &#8211; because there was no practical way to normally &#8220;preserve&#8221; grape juice and store it back then without having natural (wild) yeast present in it.</p>
<p>The rest of your argument makes no sense. Having wine does not dishonor your mind and body necessarily. We see both uses in scripture&#8230;to get drunk (which is sinful) or to celebrate and make hearts glad (wedding feast at Cana, Old Testament, etc.). Wine itself is not the evil. It&#8217;s how it is used or abused. Everything you do &#8220;alters your mind&#8221;. Exercise affects the chemicals in your brain. Coffee (and pretty much every food and drink) alters how your body feels and the chemicals in your brain. So you can&#8217;t use the fact that something &#8220;alters your mind&#8221; as an argument for it being sinful.</p>
<p>Personally, I enjoy reading scripture with a good glass of wine. Of course I use a more complete version than the KJV.  Peace and love!</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first off, you must have yeast to make wine, or bread. secondly, the old testament was to be lived by law, the 10 commandments, we do not live by that alone now. third, there are way too many scriptures in the bible that let us know to honor our bodies and mind which were bought with a price, his blood. lastly, this is just my opinion, if you were truly a born again christian, why would you choose to alter your mind by drinking? there isn&#039;t any logical christian reason to drink alcohol. if you choose to drink it&#039;s not because God wants you too, it&#039;s because you choose to. justify it however you want, but you could have taken all this time trying to justify it and could have been reading your bibles. K.J.V.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first off, you must have yeast to make wine, or bread. secondly, the old testament was to be lived by law, the 10 commandments, we do not live by that alone now. third, there are way too many scriptures in the bible that let us know to honor our bodies and mind which were bought with a price, his blood. lastly, this is just my opinion, if you were truly a born again christian, why would you choose to alter your mind by drinking? there isn&#8217;t any logical christian reason to drink alcohol. if you choose to drink it&#8217;s not because God wants you too, it&#8217;s because you choose to. justify it however you want, but you could have taken all this time trying to justify it and could have been reading your bibles. K.J.V.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah - that&#039;s a very good point. However, if you put it into the context of Jesus and the entirety of scripture it is overwhelmingly clear that Jesus did not make, expect, or live out a total abstinence from wine. In fact, he encouraged, promoted and commanded (at the Last Supper) the drinking of wine. And Jesus is not just a &quot;temple of God&quot;...he IS God. 

But this scripture IS a great reminder of why it is never good to be &quot;drunk&quot; or to drink too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah &#8211; that&#8217;s a very good point. However, if you put it into the context of Jesus and the entirety of scripture it is overwhelmingly clear that Jesus did not make, expect, or live out a total abstinence from wine. In fact, he encouraged, promoted and commanded (at the Last Supper) the drinking of wine. And Jesus is not just a &#8220;temple of God&#8221;&#8230;he IS God. </p>
<p>But this scripture IS a great reminder of why it is never good to be &#8220;drunk&#8221; or to drink too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we not now the temple of God?
This is the restrictions that the priest had to take in order to go into the Holy place. As all Christians know, we no longer have to go into a temple to meet with the Lord, We are the Temple. We must also keep out temple Holy. This is why we have the commandments. 
Leviticus 10:8-11
And The Lord spake unto Aaron, saying, Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between clean and unclean

Yes, this was for the Priest, but why was this for the Priest? At this time the priest were the only ones aload into the temple. We are now that temple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we not now the temple of God?<br />
This is the restrictions that the priest had to take in order to go into the Holy place. As all Christians know, we no longer have to go into a temple to meet with the Lord, We are the Temple. We must also keep out temple Holy. This is why we have the commandments.<br />
Leviticus 10:8-11<br />
And The Lord spake unto Aaron, saying, Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations: And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between clean and unclean</p>
<p>Yes, this was for the Priest, but why was this for the Priest? At this time the priest were the only ones aload into the temple. We are now that temple.</p>
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		<title>By: glenn lego</title>
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		<dc:creator>glenn lego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 01:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t condemn anyone for drinking wine or other alcoholic beverages, but I can&#039;t do it because it smells to me like something that died.  I used to bag groceries at a supermarket and sometimes I would have a bottle of wine slip out of my hands and drop to the floor and break.  The smell of the result of that spillage turned my stomach.  Even though I am a Catholic (of recent origin) I cannot take the wine when taking communion.  Happily the church says I don&#039;t have to take the wine to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.  I do believe Jesus drank wine, however.  No doubt he had a stronger constitution than I have. My philosophy is &quot;Others may--I may not!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t condemn anyone for drinking wine or other alcoholic beverages, but I can&#8217;t do it because it smells to me like something that died.  I used to bag groceries at a supermarket and sometimes I would have a bottle of wine slip out of my hands and drop to the floor and break.  The smell of the result of that spillage turned my stomach.  Even though I am a Catholic (of recent origin) I cannot take the wine when taking communion.  Happily the church says I don&#8217;t have to take the wine to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.  I do believe Jesus drank wine, however.  No doubt he had a stronger constitution than I have. My philosophy is &#8220;Others may&#8211;I may not!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 06:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Frank, I admire your passionate stand on this subject and it is clear that God has convicted you in this matter. I also have done in depth studies into what the Bible says about Christians drinking alcohol. I just wanted to point out that a little of your logic above is rather illogical. When you say that Jesus made wine but did not drink it because he found it foul; why would he create something that he found disgusting for all to partake in? I encourage you to look at it another way. If you do a quick internet search for the Greek translation of this part of the Bible, you will find the &quot;wine&quot; Jesus created was known as the morally good wine not the simply good wine. This is what you need to use; not that the Bible doesn&#039;t depict Jesus not drinking the wine he created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Frank, I admire your passionate stand on this subject and it is clear that God has convicted you in this matter. I also have done in depth studies into what the Bible says about Christians drinking alcohol. I just wanted to point out that a little of your logic above is rather illogical. When you say that Jesus made wine but did not drink it because he found it foul; why would he create something that he found disgusting for all to partake in? I encourage you to look at it another way. If you do a quick internet search for the Greek translation of this part of the Bible, you will find the &#8220;wine&#8221; Jesus created was known as the morally good wine not the simply good wine. This is what you need to use; not that the Bible doesn&#8217;t depict Jesus not drinking the wine he created.</p>
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