Are Pro-lifers Misogynist Pigs?

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I get that a lot. Apparently because I think innocent human life, particularly the most vulnerable and the “least among us”, should be protected from being killed, this means I hate, dis-like or mistrust women (that’s the “misogyny” part).

It also means I want to take away womens’ rights and force them into back alleys with no choice but to kill their own baby with a coat-hanger. The reason I feel this way is because I have a deep-seated need to control women and squash them into submission. In fact, I’ve been told that I probably beat women, too (that’s the “pig” part).

Whenever I hear such nonsense, it would be very difficult to take seriously except for the fact that those spewing it actually mean it seriously. They honestly think that the hundreds of thousands of people marching in Washington DC every year (and the hundreds of millions of others who agree with them) hate women. This ignorance is repeated in the “pro-choice” echo chamber enough that these products of the flawed feminism of decades past have truly begun to believe it.

I’m not saying all “pro-choicers” believe that. But many do. I’ve met them. They’ve told me how much I hate women. If this is you, please go to the march next year. Even if you go to protest it, you will see the stark contrast between the real world and yours.

The vast majority of pro-lifers truly do want to protect innocent human life. Yes, the innocent human life that happens to be located inside a woman’s body. We wish we could protect this human life without having to tell a mother she can’t kill him or her (yes, about 25 million American women have had their lives taken from them by abortion in the past 40 years). But this just happens to be how new humans are made…they start out inside another person – a woman. Pro-lifers celebrate this amazing gift and unique ability of women. Whereas many “pro-choicers” want to suppress it, deny it or destroy it. If anything, that’s misogynist.

And if we “mis-trust” women it’s because trusting them with this decision has led to the killing of over 50 million innocent babies in our country alone in the past 4 decades. And if we mis-trust anyone, it’s not just the mothers. It’s the fathers. It’s the doctors. It’s the support systems (or lack there of) of the women who become so desperate as to think the only option is to kill yet another member of the next generation – their child.

From there many pro-choicers make another totally inaccurate charge – that pro-lifers don’t care about the mother or about people after they are born. This is another example of how spending too much time in their own echo chamber has led to embarrassingly unfortunate ignorance. Pro-lifers have led the way in caring for mothers and those involved in crisis pregnancies. And, for example, one of (if not the) primary forces in the pro-life movement is the Catholic Church…which just so happens to be the largest charity organization in the world, caring for the poor and needy in every corner of the world in every possible way imaginable. It would be a laughable charge if such ignorant misinformation wasn’t being used as a weapon to advance a dangerous cause.

And still, after reading all of this, many of these pro-choicers won’t have heard a word of this. All they could think with every sentence is “Well see, that takes away a woman’s choice. And see, you DO want to control her body. Therefore you think women aren’t equal with men.” Their flawed feminism has taught (brain-washed) them to focus on being able to make whatever choice they want. And it’s failed to teach them to make the right choice. They can’t get past it. And they can’t possibly believe a pro-lifer may truly just want to stop women from making the biggest mistake of their lives and killing their own child (a human life, as science confirms). We’re all misogynist pigs. And that’s final.

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Kellee January 26, 2011 at 12:18 pm

I don’t believe that there is a choice in the “pro-choice” world. Many women believe that there is no choice but to abort because they have been brainwashed to believe that it is true, and that is a very sad thing. I have never understood the idea of abortion being about choice. Women have control of their bodies, all of society needs to learn that there is no such thing as sex without consequences. If you don’t want to have a baby then don’t have sex, that is why abstinence is still the only 100% method of birth control and avoiding STD’s.

Sam April 30, 2013 at 7:15 pm

I can see where you are coming from, and I agree that having sex always has the chance of unwanted consequences. But rape is not sex; rape is rape. And rape can lead to unwanted pregnancies. Do you truly believe that if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant because of this, they have to live with the genetic offspring of someone who would commit crimes like sexual assault and rape?

Matthew Warner May 1, 2013 at 10:48 am

Sam – are you suggesting that we sentence babies to a death sentence based upon whether or not their parents were criminals?

Sam May 1, 2013 at 4:57 pm

Yes and no. To put it generally, no, I don’t think that that is right. But also, yes; I feel uncomfortable telling women that this is a choice that they cannot make (you can see my other comment on your comment down below for more). Perhaps the Church can tell people that if they want to be Catholic, they cannot perform abortions; but I feel a little uncomfortable with the government saying that all Americans don’t have the choice to abort.

Sam May 1, 2013 at 4:58 pm

Yes and no. To put it generally, no, I don’t think that that is right; I don’t think abortion is a “good” thing. But also, yes; by this I mean, I feel uncomfortable telling women that this is a choice that they cannot make (you can see my other comment on your comment down below for more). Perhaps the Church can tell people that if they want to be Catholic, they cannot perform abortions; but I feel a little uncomfortable with the government saying that all Americans don’t have the choice to abort.

Sam May 1, 2013 at 5:00 pm

Sorry about the double comments, my Internet connection is not always reliable, so I sometimes have to enter information twice.

Erin B January 26, 2011 at 12:42 pm

Wow…I don’t think that could have been more powerful or to the point. Great article.

Artie January 26, 2011 at 4:56 pm

Very well stated again Matthew! The other interesting point I would like to add is that some believe we are pro-life because of some religious dogma and disregard science, even though they are the one’s that indeed disregard science by dehumanizing the distinct human life in the womb. They are not only dehumanizing the child in the womb, but they are dehumanizing the the woman in telling her that abortion is a safe alternative. This is your precious son or daughter not a choice

Our culture has turned the womb into a gas chamber for the slaughter of the innocent. This is sad and unfortunately our country will one day pay for this sin.

Sam April 30, 2013 at 7:25 pm

I love God. I attend church. I consider myself a good Christian. And I do my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. But that is a personal choice. That is an extremely personal choice. And that choice has nothing to do with this country. Religion is something to structure your life around, not something to impose upon others. The Bible teaches us to love thy neighbor. Will forcing our beliefs on someone else truly show that we love them? No; it only shows that we love ourselves.

When our forefathers, all good Christian men, founded this country, one of the most important aspects of our constitution was (and is) separation of church and state. Our country is NOT a Christian country. That’s the whole point. It is a democracy, a wonderful, accepting, successful democracy, that has many Christians in it. But the whole point of the freedom we enjoy is that it is freedom for all; not just Christians. Regardless of whether or not we support abortion because of our religious beliefs, it is not our role as good Christians to force that belief on others in a country where freedom, especially religious freedom, is so important and has always been so relevant.

Matthew Warner May 1, 2013 at 10:53 am

Sam – this is incredibly naive. Every law we make is a legislations of morality. It is our obligation and duty as Christians and people of good will to maintain laws that are just and fair to all people, even small babies who may not have passed through the birth canal yet.

We are not forcing anything on others, anymore than we force drunk drivers not to drive cars. Or we force angry people not to murder anyone. Or we force doctors not to let old people die who can be saved with basic health care. We aren’t primarily advocating for forcing mothers to do anything, first and foremost, we’re protecting human lives who have a right to live. Not just a civil right to live, a moral and natural right to live. A right given by God…not granted by a democracy.

Sam May 1, 2013 at 4:11 pm

As long as you are against the death penalty and as long as you don’t support any sort of killing, then no point needs to be made here. Not to generalize, but many people in this country today do support those things; I was responding to them; if you don’t fall into that group then all the power to you.

Sam May 1, 2013 at 4:12 pm

Sorry, wrong comment! (See below for where this one belongs)

Sam May 1, 2013 at 4:46 pm

Dear Matthew,
I can see where you are coming from, and on some points I agree. It is the job of people in a wonderful democracy like ours to uphold high social standards that allow freedom for all.

One side comment I have: I think that everyone posting here is having a nice, revealing discussion about this topic. People have all sorts of different views, from the left to the right and in between. I think that the best way to foster good discussion is to be courteous to others, no matter their beliefs. In any comments I made, I never used any insults; I simply did my best to show my understanding of this topic and my views. Therefore, I would simply appreciate if you didn’t be insulting, and call people who are simply stating their views “naive;” nobody likes to be insulted, and it just increases the unnecessary aggression between political parties. Thanks!

As far as life being given by God: personally, I agree. I think that life is an incredibly wonderful thing that God has given us. It is, in my opinion, so wonderful that it cannot be described in mere words. And I can see why one might think that not allowing abortion is a civil right for the unborn child. I can definitely understand that (as long as they don’t support other types of killing). My only issue is that I feel a little bit uncomfortable about not allowing abortions; although I strongly value all life, others may not be of the opinion that a uterus a few months in the making is a human being, or at least they may believe that it is human being they have control over, since they are the ones giving this child life. I simply feel a little uncomfortable being the one who decides what is right for someone else, at least in this specific scenario. It seems like we both have similar religious ideas about what is right for ourselves and those close to us. But this is a secular nation, and as I said before, I just feel uncomfortable pushing what is generally a religious moral code, not a secular moral code, on others who do not share that religion.

I am not trying to say that I approve of abortion. I am simply saying that just because our religion stipulates some point of view or some action doesn’t mean that we can or should ensure that others, who don’t follow that religion, have to follow the religious guidelines that we follow.

Daniel January 26, 2011 at 10:08 pm

Thank you for this. I always wondered how to respond to the people who say I hate women.
On a side-topic, is it true that when women see an Ultrasound of the child, many choose to not have an abortion?

Dina January 30, 2011 at 2:47 pm

No Daniel, women who see an ultrasound still have the abortion. It makes a difficult choice even worse.

Matthew Warner January 30, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Daniel, yes, that is true. Many women who see their baby using an ultrasound realize their baby is a living human life and decide not to end their child’s life. It is when they are able to de-personalize (by not looking at) the baby, as places like Planned Parenthood are on the record (and often illegally) doing (as well as covering up rape), that it makes it easier in the moment for a woman to go through with ending the life of the baby inside of them. This is not only common sense, but there are also plenty of stories that support this.

Dina January 30, 2011 at 5:57 pm

Matthew,
This is why you’re shameful. You project your judgments on others.

Daniel, People have abortions from 1 day to 13 weeks. During this period, there may be a cluster of nearly invisible cells, or a forming embryo visible on screen. Women never look at the screen. This is a shameful and disrespectful way legislators try to get women to change their minds. A women chooses to abort because it is a loving, spiritual and personal decision she makes for herself & her future family.

Ultrasounds are a hardship. In states where mandatory ultrasounds have passed, most require a 24 hour waiting period between the ultrasound & abortion. This means a woman who has traveled to the clinic from out of town (87% of counties don’t have abortion clinics) must then get a hotel room, an added expense, and take more time off work. When people go to get an abortion, the majority have already decided to do so. An ultrasound is a shaming method that does not work.

An incident at Planned Parenthood does not mean all PPs and all abortion care providers are unethical. In fact, the National Abortion Federation is a guideline for clinics & demands standards. The Pennsylvania clinic failed to meet the standard and was never a member.

The Catholic Church is in the business of pedophilia – there is no other way to describe their acceptance of pedophilic priests, the pope’s own brother is abusive. You want to talk about rape cover-ups? The Pope doesn’t believe a wife can be raped, was against condom distribution until recently, and knows about raping of children & nuns but does NOTHING about it. These priests are people who have met children, their families and still abuse them without jail time & with the support of the Catholic Church.

If you Matthew are dedicated to life, you ought to be dedicated to quality of life rather than forcing your misguided judgment on people you neither know nor care to learn about.

Abortion is difficult, personal decision. Again, if you are against it, hand out condoms with Planned Parenthood.

Joshua September 5, 2012 at 2:09 pm

Oh, how horrible that someone might actually have to face the fact that they are choosing to end their child’s life. Abortions are never performed on “day 1″. Nobody would even know they are pregnant that early. Within 4 weeks (before most women even realize that they are pregnant) the child’s heart is beating. An abortion will stop that beating heart, and kill the HUMAN child that is growing in his or her mother’s womb. Shutting your eyes to the truth does not make it go away.

Sam April 30, 2013 at 7:43 pm

Who is more human, a child in the womb? A teenager? An adult? An elderly person? Let us assume that one thinks that all of these are equally human. Alright. Sounds good. You don’t approve of abortion; you know why? Because you think they’re human, and you think that killing humans is bad. Okay. Sounds good. I completely, utterly understand. “Thou shalt not kill” is the Bible; which I do personally read and follow. You don’t approve of abortion, because that counts as killing. So, if you follow this teaching of the Bible, you must not support the death penalty either. For adults are at least as human as unborn children. As Jesus says, if you confess your sins you will be forgiven; if someone has been forgiven, why do they need to be killed? You also must not support the army; you probably don’t have any soldiers in your family. You know why? Because you don’t support killing. I understand.

What I am trying to get at is that it is hypocritical to not support some killing, but to support other killing. Killing is killing; how can one hate abortion, but support the death penalty? I will admit, the soldiers example above is more ambiguous, because they are (hopefully) killing to stop more killing. But with criminals, it is just as easy to lock them up as it is to kill them. God will forgive these criminals; why can’t all of his supposedly Christian followers?

Matthew Warner May 1, 2013 at 10:58 am

Sam – your analysis needs a little more nuance. Killing somebody in self-defense or in the case of a just war (which can be morally acceptable) is completely different than intentionally and deliberately killing an innocent life.

As for the death penalty as a practice today in America, I’m against it. And so is the Catholic Church. So I’m not sure what your point is.

Sam May 1, 2013 at 4:10 pm

As long as you are against the death penalty and as long as you don’t support any sort of killing, then no point needs to be made. Not to generalize, but many people in this country today do support those things; I was responding to them; if you don’t fall into that group then all the power to you.

Brett January 27, 2011 at 8:10 am

Does anyone know any stats for how many women feel coerced into their abortions by boyfriends, husbands, parents, etc.?

Is it pro-lifers who don’t trust these women, or is it the people who tell them they can’t have a baby?

Dina January 30, 2011 at 6:13 pm

Let me explain what pro-choice is. Pro – Choice means you support people making their own decisions regarding their womb & future families. That means supporting a woman who has a high risk pregnancy she’s been advised to terminate & she decides to keep the baby, supporting a woman who decides to terminate a pregnancy, supporting a woman having a normal, healthy baby or giving her child up for adoption. Pro-Choice means supporting a woman’s choice, whatever that choice is.

Matthew Warner January 30, 2011 at 11:14 pm

Dina – I don’t want to take anyone’s choice away…unless it involves denying the choice of somebody else – the baby in the womb. I’m not sure why this is so hard to understand. There is a human life inside of a pregnant woman. The mother does not have a moral right to “choose” to kill another human being. There are things more fundamental than the freedom to “choose”. A mother’s right to choose ends where another human’s life begins.

Esther February 19, 2011 at 2:08 pm

Then why not be pro-informed-choice? You’re comments and your speaking out against ultra-sounds leads me to believe that you want women to believe you when you tell them their baby is a clump of cells, rather then believing what they can see with their own eyes.

Bob Borah August 17, 2011 at 12:01 pm

Pro-Choice means supporting a woman’s choice, whatever that choice is.

If this part of your statement is honestly true, could you please guide me to instances where Pro Choice organizations openly support the decision for the mother “choosing” to deliver her child.

Sincerely, Bob Borah

Amy March 17, 2011 at 5:01 pm

According to a survey published in the medical science monitor of American and Russian who underwent abortions, 64 percent reported feeling pressured by others to abort, and more than half said they felt rushed or uncertain about having the abortion. 84 percent said they didn’t receive adequate counseling at the clinic, 67 percent said they received no counseling at all, and 79 percent said they weren’t informed about any alternatives to abortion. The study citation is VM Rue et. al., “Induced abortion and traumatic stress: A preliminary comparison of American and Russian women,” Medical Science Monitor 10(10): SR5-16 (2004).

Ms. C January 28, 2011 at 12:09 pm

Im pro-life, but lets not forget the women and girls that are raped by a stranger or someone from their own family. Unfortunately for them its not the consequence of having irresponsible sex. Its forced upon them.
These women need lots of prayers and counseling. I cant imagine the trauma they are going through. I do know that with total faith in God, caring pro-lifers surrounding them, and psychological help, they will do what is right in the eyes of God.
Lets reflect on their crisis and say a silent prayer for them and their unborn children. These are truly a special group of women and girls.

NCSue January 29, 2011 at 3:28 pm

I think part of the reason pro-choicers are able to rationalize what they espouse is because they fail to call a spade a spade. They trivialize anything and everything to do with abortion. Read my post here to see more about what I mean:

http://acts17verse28.blogspot.com/2011/01/trivializing-abortion.html

Dina January 30, 2011 at 2:45 pm

WHERE is the movement against Rape? A full 30% of women are sexually assaulted in the military, and that is only what is reported. How many rapist soldiers does that mean the U.S. military employs?
Of those reported rapes, less than 10% of perps did any time. Most women refuse to report assualt because higher ups make them do it
1- in front of everyone and 2- they brush it off and 3 -perps rarely are punished. What the…? A woman in the military is more likely to be sexually assaulted by her own troops, then killed by an enemy combatant.

WHERE is the movement by Catholics, Christians, Muslims, Mormons to end warfare? Children are killed at a staggering rate due to war. Where they do survive, they face destroyed infrastructure, no jobs, increased violence & susceptibility to disease.

Your shaming judgment is hypocrisy when the Catholic Church abuses children as a matter of policy.

If you don’t want an abortion, I encourage you all to volunteer w/ Planned Parenthood & hand out condoms. PP’s funding goes to fact-based sex education, annual exams, birth control, relationship counseling and a minority of services include abortion. Abby Johnson was facing a terrible job performance review & quit rather than be fired. Her story doesn’t add up – there was no abortion the day she said she had her epiphany.

I encourage everyone who wants to reduce abortion to work together, regardless of opinions on abortion. Access to effective birth control is the # 1 reduction of abortions.

Women have the spirituality, the intellect, the capability and the heart to make the best decision for themselves. No one is forced to carry a baby. Women have abortions at the same rate, worldwide, regardless of legality. Where abortion is legal, women survive. Where it is illegal, abortion becomes the #1 cause of disease, injury and death for women.

You would never choose abortion. That is your right. You do not have the legal or spiritual right to block or judge another person’s decision. If you feel you need to be involved, hand out condoms.

Kellee January 30, 2011 at 7:14 pm

Dina, What is your damage? Seriously, if you don’t agree with anything the Catholic Church teaches, and obviously believe that every priest out there is a sexual predator then maybe you should be elsewhere? You obviously allow the major media to do your thinking for you, or else you would have done some actual research about the Popes response to the sex scandal, even before he became pope… But of course people like you aren’t concerned with that because it would involve opening your ears. Yes what has happened is horrible, and those who where responsible for committing such a sin and crime should have been punished, and some of them are being punished by local authorities. But of course people like you don’t want to know anything about the response, just the dirt.

There are quite a few women who have been raped and still carry the child to term. I don’t think your issue is with rape per-say as much as it is wanting sex without consequence.

There are plenty of people who use birth control and condoms and guess what… They still get pregnant. So no handing out condoms isn’t the answer.

Planned Parenthood is a raciest organization, maybe you should read up on the “Negro-Project”. Here is a link http://www.blackgenocide.org/

Matthew Warner January 30, 2011 at 11:40 pm

Dina, I’m a bit surprised at how little you seem to understand about the facts of this matter. Abortions happen from conception until birth in this country. And they happen legally too. In most states you can get an abortion up until 21-24 weeks without question. And in all states a woman can get an abortion up until birth when granted an exception by a doctor to preserve her “health”…which is often abused because it can mean any aspect of her mental, physical, family, etc. health. So basically she just has to make up an excuse that a sympathetic doctor (or two) will sign off on.

Either way, the human life is no more or less “human” and no more or less “alive” whether just conceived or 40 weeks old.

Additionally, you seem to have some mis-informed hate towards the Catholic Church that is coming out in irrational spats within this conversation. First of all, it’s not at all related to this moral issue. Second, I would hope somebody so concerned with “shameful judgments” would put a little bit more effort into getting their critical facts straight. I suggest reading my post here on a Catholic Response to the Sex Abuse Scandal.

Also, I’m not sure why you think handing out condoms helps lessen abortions? The more the use of condoms and birth control have increased, the more abortions have increased. Those are the facts. There are a lot of reasons for this. One of the main ones is that people are lulled into a false sense of security by birth control that now think they can have sex without babies. So they engage in more of it and with more people and outside of a relationship or situation in their life that is properly prepared to receive a new human life (one of the natural and beautiful results of sex).

And OF COURSE there would be less abortions if it were illegal. Even in our own country we see this. Abortions happened before it was made legal in our country, but in nowhere near the number they occur today. As soon as abortion was made legal in our country the number of abortions began to sky rocket. So you need to check your stats on that one too.

Finally, this post is not really about any of this exactly. My point in this post is simply to express my frustration with the fact that you can’t at least give somebody like me the benefit of the doubt that I truly have good intentions to help the mother and the baby – however misplaced you think they may be. And insist that I must be a misogynist pig (and treat me like one).

On the flip side, I do recognize that it is likely not your direct intention to kill innocent babies in the womb. So I don’t think it’s productive to go around calling you a baby killer. I understand that your main concern is to preserve a mother’s ability to do whatever she wants with her body. Which, in itself, is noble. I just think that your position disregards the human life that happens to be inside of the mother’s body (most often there by her own “choice” as she engaged in sex, which was designed to create human life). And I believe that we do not have unrestricted moral “rights” to do whatever we want with our bodies…particularly when it affects the bodies of other people by killing them (i.e. ending the life of unique, individual human life inside of her body).

We can discuss whether or not you think the baby inside of the mother is a human life. But science has already undeniably confirmed that it is indeed a human life.

Either way, you must start by basing your comments and arguments on sound reason and facts. I wish you the best!

Dina August 17, 2011 at 8:28 pm

Matthew,
From what date are your statistics? The number of legal reported abortions has risen? From when? Accurate abortion rates were not accessible until the 70′s.

I don’t hate the Catholic Church. I attend it. However, the hypocrisy of sweeping sex offenders under the rug – offenders who hurt living breathing children – while attempting to end abortion says one thing – the Church is pro-birth, not pro-life.

Calling me a baby killer, even bringing that up, is disgusting & shameful.

It takes 2 to TANGO! Women are not the sole cause of pregnancy.
Additionally, in typical daily use, hormonal birth control pills fail 8% of the time, condoms fail 15% of the time, natural family planning, depending on the method, fails 12- 25% of the time and diaphragms 12%. Many couples become unexpectedly pregnant.

My suggestion is that you take your high and mighty self and do something else with it, because people will always and have always had abortions and quite frankly, it’s not any of your business.

Sam April 30, 2013 at 7:49 pm

24 weeks is six months, not nine months…

Kathrine March 18, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Hah, Fun fact(at least in my mind): Abortions and sexually transmitted diseases(although not part of this discussion) have increased because sexual intercourse is advertised more often. Why? Because it’s sexy! (Honestly, I don’t believe that last statement I just said. I hate watching TV or looking in a magazine when I see an ad of a woman half naked promoting something that has nothing to do with sex.)

I would like to apologize for my humor in this situation. I do not believe abortions are at all funny, and I would like to state that a woman can have a choice, if she falls in the category of a non-believer. God cannot help her at that point.

…I would also like to apologize for my random comment. I believe that everything should be said to someone, especially if it has at least a little correlation to the discussion at hand.

enness July 11, 2011 at 8:13 pm

This post brings to mind the expression “sweating like a pig.” But pigs don’t sweat at all. That’s why they roll in mud, to cool themselves. And thus a falsehood gains ground…

Another pig metaphor which comes to mind is something about pearls and swine. ;)

Dina: I’m trying to see things from your perspective, but I’m already looking something like a contortionist doing a headstand. To me there’s little point in rehashing what’s already been said or humoring specious arguments, and most certainly not in dignifying personal attacks. You have your eyes wide shut…clamoring for information we all know you will just promptly disregard. It’s disingenuous and, I suspect, beneath your intelligence. In any case, I do hope you will spend some more time perusing sites like this; maybe some of it will get through the barricades!

Dina August 17, 2011 at 8:30 pm

Enness,

What are you talking about? If you can’t see it from my perspective, I encourage you to open your eyes. :)

Cantaremos January 20, 2012 at 1:32 pm

It’s much too easy to have drastic opinions on abortion, especially when one knows well that one will never be confronted to pregnancy.
you are a man, so you will never have you body ruined, you will never risk your life, you will never go though birthgiving, no excruciating pain, you will never feel like being trapped in your own body, never feel burning anger against that stupid, cruel, chemical reaction that a foetus is, never be confronted to hating a child…Nature is a killer itself, nature does not care about people, does not care about suffering..It is gross, it is blind, it has no conscience.
So shame on you. You simply know that pregnancy will never happen to you and you deeply enjoy it. Sick man. If you would be offered the opportunity to bear a foetus you would refuse it. Hypocrite. So you like to tease woman, because you think that birthgiving goes along with domestic chores..poor jobs, stress, no time for oneself. It is ok if this is what it is wanted, it is ok if this is planned. Otherwise it’s hell on earth.
Pro-life…sounds well heh ? “Pro-life”…on the good side..not very risky as you will never be confronted to the harsh reality women face with unwanted pregnancies. Grow up.
Do you really think women loves their foetus from the very minutes of theirs conception ? Honestly, we do not give a fuck about foetuses, just like you, men… but you are so desperate to think it inherent to our sex. Some people see motherhood as a way to control women. It’s true. So F..you.
…and a foetus HAS NO RIGHTS. IT IS NOT A BABY, IT HAS NO STATUS AND SHOULD NEVER HAVE ONE.

Joanne November 22, 2012 at 8:43 am

Dina,

Here are statistics on abortion:
http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

Notice that: “The annual number of legal induced abortions in the United States doubled between 1973 and 1979, and peaked in 1990. There was a slow but steady decline through the 1990′s. Overall, the number of annual abortions decreased by 3.7% between 2000 and 2008, with temporary spikes in 2002 and 2006 (CDC).”

Also see the facts from the Guttmacher Institute:
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

“From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions occurred.”

So to answer your question, yes, the number of legal abortions have increased since 1973 (Roe vs. Wade).

You’ve also noted (with statistics) that contraception, in fact, does not work to decrease the number of abortions, since many women who have had abortions were on some form of birth control. The solution to reducing abortions therefore cannot come from increasing the amount of contraception. The only way to 100% ensure that you don’t become pregnant is to practice abstinence. Unfortunately, in our sex-obsessed world, we don’t like that option. We want to have sex without consequences, which is a very childish outlook. From childhood, it is our parents’ responsibility to teach us that all actions have logical consequences. If you don’t want to eat now, you’ll be hungry later. If you don’t go to bed now, you’ll be tired tomorrow. If you don’t dress warmly, you’ll get sick. Shouldn’t it follow that if you have sex (protected or not), you could end up pregnant? If you are not able to live with the consequences of getting pregnant, you should not be having sex.

Finally, look at pictures of 6-7 week old fetuses and they are undeniable human:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/a/maryb683/marybrown/6-7wkfetus.htm

It breaks my heart to see pictures of aborted fetuses becase they are humans. Ignorance is bliss, and until you see the harsh reality for what it is, nothing a pro life person can say will change your mind. If you truly want to see all sides of the story, I encourage you to look at the website below and see if you still hold your view. Please look at it from the fetus’ point of view before you defend your pro choice stance.

Click here to see a picture of an aborted baby:
http://anti-abortion.info/

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